Your description makes the tree and its fruit sound very appealing. Youd likely still have a window with no fruit, or no great fruit, sometime in fall. I have no idea if it was a great one or a terrible one. It makes me feel geriatric. I can go into the reasons for this if youre interested. "The trees are also more compact, which means growers have less costs for harvesting and tree maintenance." Tamp the soil down around the tree's . I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. Who knows? You can always try a Hass too, and just prune it to the size you want. What a wonderful gift! At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. I guess the mites are too small to interest Ladybugs. I have a place near my citrus trees. I havent seen any other Gwens growing in exactly those conditions. They have smooth, glossy skins and high water content. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. Every avocado tree has flowers that are perfect-that is, they are both male and female. Kona Sharwil Avocado. The Hass has a ton and the Fuerte as well. I decided on buying a clonal rootstock. I was trying to think of any varieties that cant be kept to 10-12 feet tall, but Im at a loss. Medium sized, pear-shaped fruit has an excellent creamy, flesh. Thanks for your feedback. The fruit has the same thick, pebbly skin as the Hass but has a little rounder shape. All these years I couldnt figure what it was. What would you recommend? Fuerte. A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. I listen for the sound of a chainsaw. By the way, all of these varieties Reed, Lamb, GEM, Sir Prize taste really good so I wouldnt choose one over the other because of taste. Theres no rush. Good questions, all. Im going for it! Averages are higher in the winter, when I would be at a shortage if I were to get a Reed. Now I have all three. Stay sharp! If I didnt feel the need for lots of space, I would, no doubt. They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. For each golf ball-sized portion (two tablespoons, or two to three thin slices), a California avocado such as Hass contains 4.6 grams of fat and the same portion of a Florida avocado averages 3 grams of fat. Fuerte, (it is tempting to just buy a larger tree but im in it for the long run). When your Hass avocado tree is newly planted, it will need to be watered every two to three days. Then I would give the slight nod to GEM due to the likelihood that the tree in general will look prettier. I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. Im more relaxed about it now. Gwens downfall as a commercial variety was primarily its green skin; it doesnt turn black as it ripens like Hass. Robert. I grafted some Sharwils here and there in the spring, and theyve grown more than any other variety I grafted this year (including Fuerte, which people often talk of as being so vigorous). This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. Nowels Avocado. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). I didnt protect my Reed with shade cloth when I first planted it, and my paint protection was not enough to prevent the top being seriously burned so I lost about 18-24 inches on the top. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. Highlights. Thats because after choosing the variety I decided that time has come to choose the rootstock)))) I am still waiting for an answer about my order, which, I hope, will be possible. All I can say is wow! The three more Guatemalan types get afternoon shade which I think helps since in recent years our summers are very intense much like inland Riverside and or Redlands as I recall with temperatures reaching well over a 100 more often than a decade ago. And if you dont care about getting lots of fruit, then Holiday is a fine choice; it also naturally grows more like a shrub, which might look appropriate in a pot. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? These trees are classified as evergreens, although some varieties lose their leaves for a short period of time before and during flowering. Thank you for your reply, After doing some research and asking question in my neighborhood the last couple of days, I found out that Im not the only one with this problem. Really, grafted avocado trees can kill themselves by fruiting too much too soon. I love my Hass. Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. PS The soil holds water for long though It generates more than $1 billion a year in revenues in the U.S. And it all started with one tree planted by a postman in his own backyard. But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. The Sharwil is a Guatemalan avocado of Australian origin, very similar to the Fuerte (although the Sharwil avocado is more ovular). One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. Thats nearly year-round, top-notch avocados from three trees. So I need to know the characteristics of other types of Avocado trees. FWIW I think Fuerte, Reed and obviously a great Hass are among my top 5 so your advice is excellent. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. I see the UC grafting resource you posted, but I am curious how to select varieties that would be well suited for grafting to the same tree. Thanks for everything. There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. 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Learn how you can support The Yard Posts here. for avocados. I dont know anything about salt in soil, never heard of it on the French Riviera. If you live in a cooler area I think it calls for some adjusting. The mainland now accepts for resale, sharwil avocados, given the need for a great tasting avocado in winter. But I have seen Holiday and Pinkerton. Nice work! GEM trees are a bit hard to come by, unfortunately. Can I say in between vertical and horizontal? Yes, there is nothing like finding those 100 year old avocado trees. It weighs between 8 and 16 oz, making it a slightly smaller variety. Youll just want to be prepared to protect them in cold snaps during their first winter or two. Will the new leaves burn? Hass is amazing in this way. The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. "Hass avocados are alternate bearing - they will produce a big crop one year, and a small crop the next. This is according to these articles of course. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . Asking them to prune 3X a year I think is questionable. that is why I decided to find out by growing two trees and to report on them. I wanted to plant them next to each other. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. I have not been able to get a clear answer as to why this is not grown in South Florida. Black sand? I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. I would plant a Hass and a Reed if I were you. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. Looks like my own graft will take. Thank you in advance for your assistance. 96 9GreenBox - Pineapple Guava - 2 Pack 1,083 1 year old Reed on unknown seedling What do think of a Reed vs. Sharwil in temecula where it can both get too hot and too cold some avocados? Thats a fun project. Those three trees would be my choice too, another benefit of the fuerte in the mix is that its a b type and you will get good pollination and more fruit set. Your message is very fun for me to read. This is the experience of many others as well. I counted 51 fruits in this picture. Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. Actually, I have tasted someone elses Kahaluu fruit that was grown in California so I can use that for reference in comparing to the others. i have small seedlings of sir prize, stewart, lamb hass, and some hybrid unknown from home depot. (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). Having grown up in San Diego and having a father who loved Avocados, I was never without. I have two Hass and a sir prize, and my next door neighbor has a Big Florida type avocado and a friend down the street has a seed grown reed type with round fruit. Im in Ramona, which calls itself the Valley of the Sun, and its not too different here. I would think that arctic blasts during winter will be your main limiting factor. Spraying the underside of leaves with a forceful stream of water can reduce mite presence on a few small trees where this is feasible.. What's more - I don't want to mush up my avo on my toast. I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. Sharwil is the best tasting avocado in the world according to some - better even than Hass. During the big freeze a few years ago, the temp got so low that it killed a lot of local avocados. I live in the bay area/delta in Brentwood. Spacing six feet apart with ten feet between rows is very workable, depending on a few factors. One of his favorites was the Nabal. I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. It is medium in size with rough green skin and yellowish-green flesh. Id probably still go Fuerte. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. Nevertheless, even compared to other trees the same size, Holiday is usually later and lighter in production. Great read! In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. Spacing with the Hass is important as well. I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. Sharwil Avocados are medium-sized pear shaped fruits characterized by their rough green skin, which stays green and does not turn black as it ripens. I decided to go pairwise; Im curious and want to understand whatre the best varieties to eat & grow here in our climate and my particular soil and I hope to avoid alternate bearing issues. Thanks again. On the other hand, I have read of some Gwen trees that dont set fruit well without a pollenizer tree nearby. Awesome, Rachael! Grows the best long-term in the ground. Were trying to get avocados all year round with varieties weve tried and like. Is that the same down South? Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. We can all hope, cant we? Variety makes a difference. 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