c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? Or maybe someone gave him a ride or a worker for the graveyard saw him. ", A CVS spokesperson released a statement to Fox News Digital saying the company is "devastated by these murders" and "shocked and saddened to learn that one our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes.". But the goal is the same, from our hearts we want Justice for Abby & Libby. Investigators searched Allen's home two weeks ago, with a focus on the property's fire pit, FOX 59 reported. That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? [5]. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. CVS . 2017 delphi murders of 2 teenage girls moving in 'new direction,' indiana state police say The teens were reported missing on Feb. 13, 2017, after they were dropped off at the Delphi Historic . The quality and relevance of these footprints is unknown. Prior to doing so, Allens wife had an image from 2018 displayed on her page showing their adult daughter posing on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi. The last communication from the girls was around 2:07 p.n. Im really interested in your thoughts about the motivation. DELPHI MURDERS: INDIANA MAN REPORTEDLY IN CUSTODY IN CONNECTION WITH 2017 KILLINGS OF 2 GIRLS, Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. The judge ordered Allen held without bond and sealed the probable cause affidavit and charging documents. In addition to the two search party members reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. This happens a lot in remarriages. Source: Infamous Indy podcast Episode 2,Timestamp 18:40. Footprints can sometimes indicate approximate height and weight of a person. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. [6], An article is published by WLFI which interviews Mike Patty who says The cellphone has been pinging around town and here there is a cellphone tower but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. The bodies were found on private property, about 50 feet from the shore of Deer Creek. The police obviously know who theyre looking for. Mike Patty reveals that he went back to the house to retrieve "phone information" and brought it to the police so they could start "pinging" Libby's phones. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. It was a place known to be a hangout for young people. Archived post. There is no good composite of the main suspect because no one saw BG with his face fully revealed. "Doug Carter made it clear at the press conference yesterday that the investigation was not over, and he would not rule out the possibility of more people being involved. On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. He has pleaded not guilty to both counts. It is possible that a WLFI-18 reporter spoke to someone in law enforcement before or after the press conference in order to ascertain this. It would be wrong to assume that all items collected ended up being related to the case. We dont know how hes acting in relation to all of this stuff. I have a couple more theories I would like to discuss with you. Determining which alleged sightings were of the offender and which were of the no longer relevant individual is next to impossible with only the publicly available information. . And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. Now onto the match. It turns out that Mr. X has a stepson that looks remarkably like the Young BG sketch. Note the more bulbous shape of the nasal tip not present in Figure A. CPS building is Crop Protection Services, not Child Protection Services. You need a huge knife to saw someones head off almost a sword you can watch any of the beheading videos out there to be sure. Reading a transcript of the press conference (? Suspect allegedly linked to Delphi murders reportedly in custody. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nations most heinous, unsolved murders. Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. He ran into a guy and he was coming from the bridge. Its very nice to ban you here today at my site! This quote, which was mentioned earlier, references a set of footprints leading up the the bodies when the bodies were found for the first time by volunteers. But is just recently coming forward with the information, which is how the released sketch came to be. I think we expect more twists and turns and more unexpected developments who knows what lies ahead. You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! Attorneys with the prosecutors and defense met virtually Friday for the suspect in the Delphi killings. Abigail Abby Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty Libby Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13, 2017. Allow me to explain. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. So we have more evidence, albeit the third-hand source we have never talked to. This is what they told us: But now we have a shocking new revelation. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. "But once Friday rolled around, that was the first time we heard the name, Richard Allen. Or a random person at the graveyard saw him. Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. Multiple news agency were in this news conference on the morning of Wednesday, February 22, 2017. Sure, its a horrible crime but this crime scene was so insane and unbelievable that it made you want to laugh out loud that someone who ever go to such deranged lengths to stage a crime scene. Most recently, Chris Lambert, the creator and host of the Your Own Backyard podcast, was credited with playing an instrumental role in bringing Paul Flores to justice for the murder of Kristin Smart, a student who vanished without a trace in 1996. Indiana Landmarks Announces Rescue of Monon High Bridge. On July 17, 2011 the police released a composite sketch of their suspect in the Delphi murders. On April 22, 2019 law enforcement released about one second of video of which the previous stills had been taken from. Although little is known about how the girls died, Abby and Libby were certainly victims of foul play. The group in Pennsylvania only does cold cases and delphi isnt cold according to delphi LE. Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. Why did we let them go out there? I always thought it was Child Protective Services, too! I wonder if the witness tossed the idea around of "what if I incriminate an innocent person"? Where was this and again what time was this? During their own two-year investigation into the case, the couple has, in addition to Kline, found that police also once served a search warrant at the home of another local man, Ron Logan, in connection with the case. I read your other post and Ive come to the conclusion that someone else set up the crime scene. "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." I think its likely the video/photos were found during the search of JBCs property and he led them to KAK. DELPHI More than two years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found murdered, Indiana State Police are releasing new evidence to help find their killer. We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. Libby was murdered in 2017 alongside her best friend, Abby Williams Credit: YouTube. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. Monon High Bridge as seen from the south side of the Dreek Creek. Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee have been reporting on the 2017 double homicide of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, for almost two years on their smash-hit podcast The Murder Sheet. As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police have been seeking information relating to vehicles in the area during this timeframe. Undated. There are a number of childrens graves there, and there were dolls scattered around some of those graves. We are concerned that Mr. X may have used his stepsons photo, possibly without his permission, as the Catfish Boy used in the luring of the girls. 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . "We havent closed the door on the investigation," McLeland said. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I know we are on 2 different paths. And by the way, you are banned, baby. Thats probably why LE was saying at the presser that Old BG was no longer a suspect in the crime. . News sources have also never directly referenced witness sightings of the offender. How about getting your moneys worth? Mr, Robert Lindsay, I am really starting to believe that you and your research team might hold the key to solving this heinous crime. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. One said that in addition to dolls all over the ground, there were dolls hanging from trees. "The bridge has been used as a backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures, wedding photos, or to simply capture the beauty of the untouched nature that surrounds it." The only reason they would be looking for that is if the crime was videotaped. Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. Witness sees Delphi Murder suspect, but just recently comes forward to help with composite sketch This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. Horse and buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the Monon High Bridge visible in the background. No, no CP was found at JBCs place. I didnt see the girls at all. The Chief of Police in Delphi, Indiana (Brook L. McCain) received a telephone call regarding the murder case of child victims Abigail Williams and . Why fly all over the country looking at hatchet criminals unless the crime involved a hatchet? I only (saw) a guy when I first got there and another couple once I got on the bridge. When was this? I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. Possible Accomplice is at the lower level of suspect, and its not even known if he was ever at the crime scene that day. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in Delphi . What do we know from LE reports/statements to public or to the. A Google Street View photo on August 2018 shows the building is now torn down: However the building had not been torn down and can be seen still standing on February 14, 2017 in RTV-6 helicopter footage. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . In the newly unsealed affidavit, multiple witnesses reported seeing a man - who one described as "creepy" - matching Allen's description on the bridge on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. Yes I am a member of the private group. It sounds like they dont have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. Hopefully I will be able to talk to you someone with a brain, someone who is passionate about this case. This sketch replaces an older sketch that was provided on July 17th, 2017. he has never confirmed DNA evidence was recovered. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. Both said that dolls were scattered around the crime. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. Enjoying your content very much. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. DEVELOPMENT: Delphi Police Chief receives telephone call from man with voice that sounds like suspect. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. [12] They later released two more stills from the video. I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? The sketches are not exact, Bryant said. DELPHI, Ind. Did they both have a phone? No. All the best, Sarah, Your email address will not be published. [20]. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. [10]. How many saw Bridge Guy and when?LISTEN to the FULL PODCAST here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6KPvghETZ4AUDIBLE FREE TRIAL - https://amzn.to/2KRHO8C\rSUPPORT MINDSHOCK - https://www.paypal.me/mindshock\r-SOCIAL- \rFACEBOOK - http://facebook.com/MindshockPodcast\rTWITTER - https://twitter.com/MindshockPod\rREDDIT - https://www.reddit.com/r/mindshock\rMEDIUM - https://medium.com/@mindshock\rPATREON - https://www.patreon.com/mindshock This is probably evolutionary as pregnancies in 13-15 year old girls are notorious for having complications for both the mother and the child. It was Child Protective services. A sheriffs deputy in a nearby town who stated: One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. Or the other idea I have aside from someone else walking the park that day is, the property owner. all the while not leaving any DNA behind. They just do it for the Hell of it. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. This is all very confused. And I think that what must have happened is they have taken these leads, they have interviewed literally thousands of people. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Voit muuttaa valintojasi milloin tahansa siirtymll yksityisyydenhallinta-asetuksiisi. RELATED: Arrest made in Delphi murders of 2 teens in 2017; suspect worked at the local pharmacy, residents say. pm on February [13th] 2017. The new sketch released during a press conference on April 22 2019. The witness left, but reportedly told her husband about the strange . DELPHI, Ind. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. [19] [20] He is often referred to online by the moniker "Flannel Shirt Guy" or FSG. VITAL WITNESS. In four years, we only had two LE sources, and each of them told us one statement. Thanks, SMK! Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. One of which is of a person "not considered relevant at this time." The police asked the publics help to identify a vehicle that was seen parked near the Monon High Bridge the day Abby and Libby Killed. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. Subscribe to Forensic Tales podcast so you dont miss an episode! So he would be a suspect, but half of the men in Delphi have probably been suspects at one point. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. They have vaguely confirmed there were multiple witnesses when describing the process of creating the composite sketch. The search yielded evidence that led to his arrest. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Maybe that is what took so long. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. on Monday, February 13, between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Whether the homicide location and the body disposal location are the same is unknown. Tietoja laitteestasi ja Internet-yhteydest (esimerkiksi IP-osoitteesi), Selaaminen ja hakutoiminnot Yahoon verkkosivustojen ja -sovellusten kytn aikana. It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. They reference you on Reddit all the time. Obviously none of this happened, but BG may have wanted to stage it to look like a murder-suicide as of a sick joke. "Why did we let them go out there? Tweet by an ABC-7 news reporter showing where crime scene tape was located. The vehicle (unknown make or model) was parked at an old CPD/DCS building in Delphi. Furthermore law enforcement has made it clear in interviews that they do not want to publicly disclose these details. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first womans report. This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community . . ine explained there is a "chasm" between the information the media has, what the public is being told, and what law enforcement knows and is investigating. And maybe he's actually under witness protection from the killer without tipping him off and also keeping him away from the angry mob. The stepson, even today, is a dead ringer for Young BG. My thoughts are maybe they were scared and hoping the killer would be caught fast or enough time would pass so he wouldn't remember them and would assume it could be anyone. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! On April 22, 2019 a sketch of the person who the Indiana State Police believe attacked Libby and Abby was released during a press conference detailing "a new direction" the investigation was taking. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby is clearing up some misconceptions about the Delphi double homicide case released by other media outlets on Friday. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. (JBC and others unknown). Hopefully we can talk about some of the things that Ive come up with. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region's historic trails. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. 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