Is there anything that can get you cut off? It's like Rushton wants to dress it up in jargon so you don't notice how hateful the premise is, but Mehler just cuts right to the chase. Bill:In general, Pioneer funded two different groups of recipients. Jensen was willing to take a stand, and he knew what he was doing. What he's just been talking about. You don't have to apply. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. "No, we're not passing racist laws because we hate people who are different from us, we're just following the science." So here is a guy who's wiling to take a stand for racism, and the Pioneer was willing to give him anything to help him spread that news. With Pioneer funding, he produced one of these strange extremist publication after another. Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. Nobody wants to know that stuff, and nobody is really offended by it. 7 No. It's kind of a fitting name because he was born into a wealthy family in 1891. They painted the swastika backwards." Uploaded by The collections and research newsletter brings you the latest on our acquisitions, library events, and programs. They decided that Jensen and Shockley should work together, and throughout that partnership, Jensen's ideas change. Keepers of the Flameis Episode 3ofInnate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race,a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. If you were less than one quarter Jewish then you could be considered, uh, to be Aryan, which was much more lenient than the one drop rule in the United States. Rigo:Okay. Rigo:Draper's view stayed the same, but he knew enough to realize that the world's views had changed. Bill:Shockley was a very difficult person to work with, and eventually Pioneer ended his funding because he was just turning people off that Pioneer wanted to influence. Stuff. Rigo:Even though his work was only in left leaning publications, the TV appearances were a big platform for Mehler to refute their ideas, but he says that might have been for nothing. Uploaded by Although it was widely dismissed, it is still cited today as evidence that white people are smarter than Black people, and it's all biological. This is one of the most liberal institutions in the country, so when he suggested intelligence was inherited, people got a little ruffled, but that's not a firable offense in itself, right? Barry:You know when you don't want to know? Boy, they must have hit it off right away. Expressing frustration over teaching in person during the pandemic of viewers sent me the video upset about the language, but a couple of Ferris state students stand by mailer. He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? That's what it was all about, they wanted to resurrect their movement to come after my son. I, Issue 2 (May, 1991) Twenty Minutes (August, 1991) Roger Pearson, for example, had at least a dozen names that he used, and Barry Mehler and his mentor, Jerry Hirsch, help uncover the deception. Use science to shield the race science. It's from an interview he did in Playboy Magazine. They also share the same funding source. Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? Rigo:William Shockley didn't try to hide his connection to The Thunderbolt. 8 No. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. He took off his kippah and pretended he wasn't Jewish, and he embedded himself with neo Nazis. Lisa:Okay. Rigo:Yeah. He stumbles his way into Harvard but he has very mediocre grades, and he eventually joins the Army, where he works his way up to the rank of Colonel. WebMain address PO Box 25972 Tamarac, FL 33320 USA Show more contact info EIN 55-0711460 NTEE code info Single Organization Support (W11) IRS filing requirement This organization is required to file an IRS Form 990-N. Communication Programs and results What we aim to solve This profile needs more info. The more citations, the more funding, the more chances to become tenured. Is this a secret conspiracy, or is any of it happening in the open? Rigo:Exactly. I, I think they hate him, which raises the question for me, you know, he might be this prestigious academic, but if he's not popular, if his ideas are this controversial, how does he keep having the platform that he has? Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. I've never mailed my stuff out, but that was exactly what The Pioneer Fund was doing, and, and it was a, a strategy that they had to disseminate their information. Barry:It was apparent to me that we were putting on a show, and that I was part of this show, and I was performing a- an important task for the racist platform because they couldn't do it without me. [laughs]. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. There are no reviews yet. [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? You know, the only thing I had was the fact that I was able to articulate a context, and a vision that nobody else really had. By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. So a '90s race scientist has come to the Phil Donahue Show. Um, Literally rides on a Nazi tank, into the city of Bilbao, uh, at the time when Franco's army is laying seeds to the place, uh, only a few weeks after the infamous bombing of the, of the city of Akaka in the Basque region. Angela:And the consensus was set in stone really by UNESCO, um, in the 1950s in a set of declarations in which they essentially stated that race is a social construct, it doesn't have any biological validity, and that was signed by a number of scientists, anthropologists, policymakers all over the world. His guest for the episode was Charles Murray, who co-authored the 1994 book, The Bell Curve. He originally thought any difference in intelligence Black and white people were from environmental factors, but after working with Shockley, Jensen started arguing that intelligence was inherited. Lisa:That blows right past yikes into holy crap territory. Remove constraint Subject: The Phil Donahue Show, American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT), International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE), East Coast FTM Group Organizational Records, International Foundation for Gender Education Publications and Documents, Newspaper and Periodical Clippings (1950-2000), Joseph A. Labadie Collection, University of Michigan, Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:Okay, let me zoom out a little bit. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. So, a lot of really terrible people adopt eugenics because it allows them to do things like build fake racial hierarchies based on intelligence or aptitude, and then use that to argue against interracial marriage, or integrated schools, or to argue for the sterilization of so called undesirables. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Rigo:Right. Barry:This kind of propaganda, and this kind of advocacy goes on for some time. It was clear that the anti Semitism was everywhere about me. Lisa:They just have to keep at it 'til the temperature changes. These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. Lisa:So just setting the scene again for people listening, we're watching The Phil Donahue Show. Essentially, it gave racists a cover story. He teaches at a college no one's heard of, and he's on a Donahue to debate Rushton. Rigo:Something that a lot of people don't know is that the Nazis got the ideas about eugenics from the United States. I went to the police about the swastika on the mailbox and they said, "Yeah, you know, that's just kids, you know, and look, they didn't even do it right. He ran the Phil Donahue show for almost 3 decades with nearly 7000 one-hour daily shows. Rigo:Right. If it is your nonprofit, add a problem Bill:The Mankind Quarterly is a very interesting publication. Lisa:Give me a taste of who we're talking about there. Barry:The word pioneer has a real meaning to these people. Then I, I trust you believe there are others. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? When you do research, funded research, you're kind of beholden to your funder in certain ways, right? It was because I was not a mainstream scholar that I was able to get away with all the things that I was able to, to do, and I did survive. Lisa:Oh, this is another opportunity for me to go Wickliffe Preston Draper, isn't it? The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. There would've been no 'Donahue' show without that studio audience.". ABC News Archive on Laughlin:It was called Erbkrant, which means hereditary, defective. The Pioneer Fund was just handing over cash. Rigo:That was Angela Saini, the author of the bookSuperior: The Return of Race Science. WBBM-TV - 630 N. McClurg Court, Near North Side, Chicago, Illinois, USA. And I decided I wanted to become a rabbi, and my father thought that was a terrific idea, and, and I transferred to a Jewish parochial school, and I began to wear the kippah on my head. Their desire is to have a platform to disseminate their ideas, and we would be giving them platform if we allow them to speak to here. Their last known grant was in 2019 to an organization based in Ohio whose president has written extensively about racial differences. Title of Larger Work The Phil Donahue Show Collection Title Collected Works of Milton Friedman Project records Guest Friedman, Milton (1912-2006) Host Donahue, Phil Publication Type(s) Interviews & TV Appearances. Rigo:It seems like it's, like, um, kind of click bait-y television for the time. Uh, you know, I, I don't need to be credited, and if you want to discredit me, they were always able to discredit me. Rigo:Arthur Jensen in particular got more than a million dollars from them. Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. It makes me think of the Donahue interview with Rushton. But unfortunately for Mehler, this was not the end of it. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. Barry Mehler on Donohue:I gave a press conference and he came to hear me and I gave a paper and afterwards we sat down for a cup of coffee together and he said, Barry, you made some excellent points, but this Neo Nazi business, I mean, I know these people, you talking about stand up guys. And I said, Phil, you're in a stand up. So about the third or fourth show, Iwent out in the audience and it saved us. Lisa:So tell me about Roger Pearson. Web10 A.M., Phil Donahue, CH.5 Biographical Sketch of Ari Kane Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. He fired almost all of the current faculty, and made openings for other neo Nazi scientists. Rigo:Exactly. Is it still around? One were actual scientists working on projects that Pioneer though w- would have results that could be exploited for their political agenda. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Lisa:All pretty common accusations that anyone who is coming against neo Nazis, even today. Episode 4from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. [laughs] And, you know, and he's arguing that you can't boost their IQ by, uh, any kind of environmental changes, which is kind of an absurd argument anyway to make. And actually, they found ours a bit too strict. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Rigo:They were very entangled. Barry:And he's endorsed by President Ronald Reagan, uh, right? Barry:I've had a sense of urgency that goes back a very, very long time. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who So, [laughter] that's how I knew the police didn't do it, because if they had done it, they would have done it right. Rigo:Yeah, and it claimed that Black people were a threat to civilization, and that they should be repatriated back to Africa. Uh, the Harvard Educational Review article that he wrote, How Much Can We Boost IQ, you know, there was At the time, I was working at little Head Start in Spanish Harlem, and we would feed the children breakfast, and Arthur Jensen was argued, "It really isn't gonna change their IQ whether you feed them breakfast or not.". Laughlin gave them a kind of eugenics spin, giving them a kind of scientific veneer that they didn't have before the Eugenics Movement came along. 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